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2000 North American Archive of International Speedway
Message Section
June 30, 2000
From: anthonymcguire@dingoblue.net.au
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: RE: Oz GP Venue
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:27:58 +1000
There seems to be alot of speculation and rumour Brett on this one. I think
it may be a case of wait and see what happens..........
-----Original Message-----
From: Maiser@ksinet.univ.gda.pl [mailto:Maiser@ksinet.univ.gda.pl]On Behalf
Of brettg@gil.com.au
Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2000 8:49 PM
To: Internet Speedway Fan Club List
Subject: Oz GP Venue
All Australian speedway fans are waiting in anticipation to hear if we are
awarded a round of the Grand Prix in 2001.
There is also a fair degree of speculation surrounding the likely stadium
which will stage this extravaganza. Melbourne is perhaps the favourite in
many people's eyes at this stage. I wonder if Melbourne gets the go ahead
whether it will be at Olympic Park (not to be confused with the Mildura
venue by the same name)?
It is possible that the new air safety fence introduced in this years series
may open up a host of other options which would otherwise have been excluded
previously because of concrete/wooden safety fences. Interesting food for
thought!
Perhaps the biggest obstacle however is likely to be the FIM specifications
regarding track size and shape.
In my opinion the 2 best stadiums for staging speedway in Australia are the
Wayville Showground in Adelaide and the Ekka in Brisbane. Both are likely
to be ineligible however on different grounds; the Ekka is too narrow (only
9 Metres wide) whereas Wayville is possibly too large (more along the lines
of Longtrack proportions).
In terms of present venues which consistently dish up quality racing, it
would be hard to go past the Newcastle Motordrome. This however is unlikely
to get a guernsey because of a) inadequate spectating facilities, b) shape
(it is a huge D), and c) it is not in a capital city.
One cannot help but think that if Australia is fortunate enough to be
awarded a GP, it is likely to be a purpose built track for the occasion.
Any other comments/views by Australian speedway fans or Overseas visitors
who have been down under?
Brett Garrigan
ICQ 16941821
From: stvmagro@tig.com.au
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: Oz GP venue
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:53:23 +1000
The FIM delegate who came to Australia last year and visited the new
Sydney Showground (not too sure of his name) liked what he saw.
Most certainly, the stadium is better than the Brisbane Exhibition =
Ground
and it leaves Melbourne's Olympic Park for dead too.
At the Showground - which is next door to the Sydney Olympic stadium -
the terraces and stands are all raised (similar to Bradford) and since =
it
was only built three years ago the facilities are first class.
The only problems have been the concrete fence and the diabolical =
shape
of the track. However the new air fence would discount the concrete,
this necessitating a new track to be cut further infield.
My mail suggests there is a very good chance that the RAS (owners) =
would
allow a new track to be cut, particularly as there are no drains.
Capital city, yes, but out of Melbourne or Sydney I suggest that the =
latter
has the inside running on 2001.
Steve Magro
Brisbane, Australia
http://www.motorcyclesonly.com/worldspeedway.htm
From: karl.iat@dial.pipex.com
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: In reply to Bryn
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:24:25 +0100
Bryn wrote:
>Are you saying GP riders should be allowed to miss meetings in a GP
week
>then Karl? What about the paying public in Britain and, indeed in
Sweden?
They already miss all meetings from the Thursday to GP day now! I
think that with the expansion of the GPs and the fact that the riders
consider them their number 1 priority anyway (as proven by how many of
them ride when they are too injured for league meetings), league
speedway both here and in Sweden will have to deal with this soon -
perhaps having squads or as I said before, separate events during GP
weeks.
Well done Bryn for considering the paying public - it's a pity that
'promoters' do not. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels we are
taken for granted when we see televised meetings going ahead when a
league match would have been called off and much more effort put into
presentation, with interviews etc.- but not for league meetings!
Keep up the good work,
Karl
From: jangrainger@bigpond.com
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: Re: GP in Oz
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:56:37 +1000
Brett, it is difficult to speculate where a GP round could be held in
Australia. With regard to the air fence, (which is a magnificent safety
feature) I cannot see any promoter being able to afford it. I am lead to
believe it is very expensive. Can someone confirm. Having just viewed the
Swedish GP I'd like to put in my view regarding the exclusions. It was
certainly obvious to my eye that Mark Loram was the offender in the last
race, but to me, Jason Crump was looking a bit untidy before colliding with
Gollob earlier in the meeting. Yes, I will admit Gollob moved out but I
think it was a difficult one to call. Will referees eventually have access
to video replays? One thing I noticed, which infuriates me, is spectators
have those stupid air horns at Swedish tracks, like in England. Honestly,
if they allowed them into the tracks in Australia, no one would attend. At
my last meeting in Coventry I swore I'd never go to another English track,
you simply could not hear the commentator or results. Why is this annoying
practice allowed? You can't tell me it makes for a pleasant night at the
speedway.
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From: apovey@netcomuk.co.uk
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: Result updates from Reading's Northern Tour.
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:22:11 -0000
Please remember that for all those not attending this weekend's Reading away
meetings at:
Workington - Saturday 1st July
Glasgow - Sunday 2nd July
You will still be able to find out the latest score updates and all the
scorers during the meetings, using the Reading Speedway On-Line Away Results
Service. There will be updates after every four heats.
Unfortunately I won't be attending either meeting because of other
commitments but Martin Phillips will be ringing Nick Dyer with updates
throughout both meetings and Nick will then update the away results bulletin
board. Any other relevant news throughout the tour will also appear on the
bulletin board.
You can access the latest score updates/ news by following the link on the
homepage at www.readingspeedway.com or on the fixtures page.
The website will be updated as normal sometime during the weekend.
Andy
--
Reading Speedway On-Line
www.readingspeedway.com
From: marian@ksinet.univ.gda.pl
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: GP3 race table
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:50:51 +0200
at http://world.speedway.org/list.dat/gp3.zip
Marcin
From: nikulin@hotmail.com
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: Swedish League results on Thursday
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:05:33 PDT
ALLSVENSKAN LEAGUE: Round 7
Two of Thursday’s five league matches were rained off. Nassjo lost the south
Swedish derby against Vetlanda by 37-59. These two clubs are situated just
40 kilometres from each other, but have never before met in a league match.
The win took Vetlanda top of table.
NASSJO 37: Piotr Paluch 14, Patrik Haag 9, Peter Ljung 6, Kim Brandt 6,
Carsten Hansen 2, Mikael Pettersson 0, Mariusz Staszewski – rider
replacement.
VETLANDA 59: John Jorgensen 14, Conny Ivarsson 11, Bjorn Gustafsson 10,
Frede Schott 9, Claes Ivarsson 7, Mattias Nilsson 6, Kim Aspegren 2.
Attendance: 575
Piraterna had huge difficulties to beat bottom side Getingarna, but fiannly
won by 51-45. The Stockholm team led 23-19 after heat 7 and were level with
the Pirates with just three races left. Before the last heat, Piraterna led
by 46-44. In heat 16, Stefan Ekberg and Robert Kosciecha scored a 5-1
against Brett Woodifield. Craig Watson failed to meet the two minute time
allowance.
PIRATERNA 51: Robert Kosciecha 16, Stefan Ekberg 14, Kenneth Bjerre 10,
Hakan Antonsson 4, Mark Keast 4, Henrik Linde 3, Krzysztof Pecyna – rider
replacement.
GETINGARNA 45: Freddie Eriksson 10, Craig Watson 10, Brett Woodifield 9,
Mikael Teurnberg 6, Mattias Engman 5, Per Jansson 4, Johan Liljegren 1.
Attendance: 242
Karlstad v Filbyterna was rained off and will provisionally be re-arranged
on July 20.
DIVISION ONE: Round 6
Lejonen became the first team to beat Lindarna this season, winning 53-43 in
front of a pretty large crowd at Gislaved.
LEJONEN 53: Grzegorz Walasek 13, Anders Henriksson 11, Grzegorz Klopot 10,
David Ruud 8, Per Wiklander 6, Maciej Bornecki 5, Patrik Malmfeldt 0.
LINDARNA 43: Paul Hurry 13, Daniel Anderson 13, Kauko Nieminen 6, Kenny
Olsson 5, Jonas Davidsson 4, Daniel Davidsson 1, Nicklas Gallon 1.
Attendance: 663
Team Viking v Korparna was postponed and will be re-staged on July 13.
ALLSVENSKAN LEAGUE
Includes all matches up to, and including, Monday, July 3
HOME AWAY
M W D L W D L F A Pts
1 Vetlanda 5 2 0 0 2 0 1 264 214 8
2 Bysarna 5 2 0 0 1 1 1 294 184 7
3 Filbyterna 5 2 1 0 1 0 1 277 202 7
4 Piraterna 6 2 0 1 1 0 2 284 292 6
5 Nassjo 5 1 0 2 1 0 1 231 249 4
6 Karlstad 5 0 0 2 1 1 1 205 274 3
7 Getingarna 5 0 1 2 0 0 2 169 309 1
DIVISION ONE
Includes all matches up to, and including, Wednesday, July 5
HOME AWAY
M W D L W D L F A Pts
1 Lindarna 6 3 0 0 2 0 1 338 237 10
2 Lejonen 5 3 0 0 1 0 1 276 203 8
3 Team Viking 5 0 0 2 1 0 2 221 258 2
4 Korparna 4 0 0 2 0 0 2 123 260 0
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* Jonas Holmqvist E-mail: nikulin@hotmail.com *
* ICERACING - The most spectacular sport in the world! *
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From: swaalen@online.no
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: Re: Oz GP Venue
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:47:43 +0200
Weeeelll......you have a point Brett.
The Wayville track is way too long
The Ekka is too narrow, but that is not necessary a problem. It has the =
spectator-facilites, it`s in a big town, but some major changes to the =
track is needed. The concrete walls have to go, and the track needs to =
be wider and less round. If that can be done don`t count it out.
A purpose built track is not necessary the best way to go, as the tarmac =
usually is crap.
Don`t count out Gosford. The track is probably the best one in Aussie =
(needs to be slightly wider), and if Tappy can go through with the =
changes he has planned, it could be a good stadium. One drawback is that =
FIM for next season as far as I have heard ONLY will go for tracks which =
can take 20-50 000 spectators. This again means that we will loose one =
of the rounds in the Nordic countries, and that Vojens, Lindk=F6ping and =
Coventry wil be out of the questions. Roumor has it that Aussie, Las =
Vegas and Barcelona are hot prospects for next years GP.
I`ll bet ya, one ound will be held in Aussie next season !
Stein
----- Original Message -----=20
From: brettg@gil.com.au=20
To: Internet Speedway Fan Club List=20
Sent: 29. juni 2000 12:48
Subject: Oz GP Venue
All Australian speedway fans are waiting in anticipation to hear if we =
are awarded a round of the Grand Prix in 2001.
There is also a fair degree of speculation surrounding the likely =
stadium which will stage this extravaganza. Melbourne is perhaps the =
favourite in many people's eyes at this stage. I wonder if Melbourne =
gets the go ahead whether it will be at Olympic Park (not to be confused =
with the Mildura venue by the same name)?
It is possible that the new air safety fence introduced in this years =
series may open up a host of other options which would otherwise have =
been excluded previously because of concrete/wooden safety fences. =
Interesting food for thought!
Perhaps the biggest obstacle however is likely to be the FIM =
specifications regarding track size and shape.
In my opinion the 2 best stadiums for staging speedway in Australia =
are the Wayville Showground in Adelaide and the Ekka in Brisbane. Both =
are likely to be ineligible however on different grounds; the Ekka is =
too narrow (only 9 Metres wide) whereas Wayville is possibly too large =
(more along the lines of Longtrack proportions).
In terms of present venues which consistently dish up quality racing, =
it would be hard to go past the Newcastle Motordrome. This however is =
unlikely to get a guernsey because of a) inadequate spectating =
facilities, b) shape (it is a huge D), and c) it is not in a capital =
city.
One cannot help but think that if Australia is fortunate enough to be =
awarded a GP, it is likely to be a purpose built track for the occasion.
Any other comments/views by Australian speedway fans or Overseas =
visitors who have been down under?
Brett Garrigan
ICQ 16941821
From: kevin@meynell.com
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: Re: Oz GP Venue
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:34:26 +0100
In reply to Stein:
>One drawback is that FIM for next season as far as I have heard ONLY wil
>go for tracks which can take 20-50 000 spectators. This again means that
>we will loose one of the rounds in the Nordic countries, and that Vojens,
>Lindk=F6ping and Coventry wil be out of the questions.
If these rumours are correct, one has to ask why the GP promoters are going
for such large stadiums when the average attendance is only about 15,000
per GP (and that figure is much lower if you exclude the Polish GPs)? By
all means expand the series to new venues, but don't neglect the places
which provide the hardcore support.
Kevin Meynell
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